What The Luxe
Critical of the excess of traditional luxury, What The Luxe is a podcast designed to debunk convention, reframing the conversation with an enviable line-up of industry leaders.
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Matter Of Form CEO, Anant Sharma, and CCO, Fred Moore, have some strong (and mostly sound) opinions on the state of modern luxury. With light irreverence and some charm, the duo take turns in welcoming a different guest each episode to look at luxury through a new lens.

Anant Sharma
Founder & CEO
A futurist, innovation enthusiast and keen advocate of developing meritocratic cultures that promote ideas and learning.

Fred Moore
CCO
For the last 10 years Fred has co-run Matter Of Form - leading the company from a small group of employees to an experience design consultancy with over 70 employees working for some of the world’s most iconic brands. Fred thrives on working with both the MOF and client teams to bring the best future-facing solutions across brand, design and technology.
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Season 1
8 episodes
Kicking off with why Anant hates the word luxury, What The Luxe’s first series welcomes All Roads North founder Sam Highley; BlockBar CMO Charlotte Shaw; Dishoom’s Kavi Thakrar; CEO of Wilderness Keith Vincent; Renowned Jewellery Designer Ming Lampson; Private Drama Events founder Adam Blackwood and Julia Perowne, CEO & Founder

Covering everything from the blanding phenomenon and eccentric brand ambassadors to NFTs and Anant’s hypothetical life as a DJ, What The Luxe’s first episode is a one-on-one between MOF co-founders as Fred dissects Anant’s distaste for the term ‘luxury’ despite their line of work, complimented by some light-hearted jabs and the acknowledgement of a decidedly small audience. For now.
Why I Hate The Word 'Luxury'
37min
S01, E01
Anant Sharma, CEO of Matter of Form

Throwing up a middle finger to conventional notions of luxury travel, Fred is joined by Sam Highley, Founder of All Roads North – an unpretentious luxury travel company that custom designs unforgettable American road trips. Tune in as these two old friends tap into All Roads North’s ‘unpretentious luxury’ ethos, the many faces of the luxury road tripper and whether tech has the potential to displace the bespoke travel advisor.
The Beauty of In Between Places
37min
S01, E02
Sam Highley, Founder of All Roads North

Fred & Anant are joined by Charlotte Shaw, CMO of BlockBar — the world’s first DTC NFT marketplace for luxury wines and spirits — talking everything from their blockchain business model, the benefit for both brands and buyers as well as Web3’s potential to revolutionise luxury. Disclaimer: You will find yourself googling how to buy shares in BlockBar after listening.
The Spirit of Innovation & Web3
44min
S01, E03
Charlotte Shaw, CMO of BlockBar

Everyone knows about Dishoom, the decade-defining success story of London’s restaurant scene. To dive deeper, Fred is joined by Kavi Thakrar, Dishoom’s formidable and admirably humble Co-Founder & Head Babu. Weaving truly fascinating tales of both his life and business, Kavi tells Fred all about Bombay’s beautiful melting pot of culture, the challenge of replicating that in the UK restaurant industry, the secret to success in hospitality (answer: soul) and the importance of deepening a brand with storytelling, rather than diluting it.
'Deepen, Don't Dilute' - Serving Up a Cult Brand Steeped in Story
47min
S01, E04
Kavi Thakrar, Co-Founder of Dishoom

Keith Vincent, CEO of Wilderness, a world-leading conservation and hospitality company, fascinates and entertains Fred with his tales from the wild — both in nature and the unpredictable landscape of business & ecotourism.
A total legend in the industry, he leads Wilderness’ 3000-strong collective with over 60 camps across 8 countries, acting as a force behind their mission to preserve the world’s ultimate, untamed places no matter where they may be.
The Wild Side of Conservation Tourism
41min
S01, E03
Keith Vincent, CEO of Wilderness

Continuing our channel-wide deep dive into fine jewellery, Fred is joined by world-renowned designer, jeweller & CEO of Ming Jewellery, Ming Lampson — whose love for gemstones has spanned both decades and continents — to mine her philosophy for crafting one-of-a-kind pieces, the story behind the stones and where fine jewellery is headed.
A Love Letter To Craft
39min
S01, E03
Ming Lampson, Renowned Designer & CEO of Ming Jewellery

With an intuitive understanding of people, Adam Blackwood, Founder & Creative Director of Private Drama Events, illuminates Fred on the power of complete immersion in one-of-a-kind experiences and creating the mystery of a lifetime on Belmond’s legendary British Pullman.
Architecture Branded Experiences
34min
S01, E07
Adam Blackwood, Founder of Private Drama Events

A long-time friend of Matter Of Form and all-round luxury industry ace, Julia Perowne gives What The Luxe a glimpse of her innate sense of what makes a hotel special, some guidelines on what an exquisite hotel proposition looks like and why she is another hater of the term ‘luxury’.
'Integrity Over Growth' - A Call To Action for Luxury Hospitality
41min
S01, E08
Julia Perowne, Founder & CEO of Perowne International
Season 2
8 episodes
What The Luxe’s second series launches with The Future Laboratory co-founder Chris Sanderson, followed by conversations with citizenM CBO Robin Chadha; founder & CEO of Lapland UK Mike Battle; Natasha Franck, founder of EON; Rosie Shephard of Luxury Communications Council and consultant, speaker and author of ‘Digital Darwinism’ Tom Goodwin.

Chris Sanderson is the co-founder of The Future Laboratory, one of the world’s most renowned futures consultancies, and the best guest to kick off the second series of this podcast. A clear authority in what makes timeless brands, Chris and Anant tap into the science behind trends, sources of newness and the intricacies in the cycle of innovation; unpicking the trajectory of luxury as they go — all the way from antiquity to tomorrow.
Transformative Twenties - A Defining Decade
45min
S02, E01
Chris Sanderson, Co-Founder of The Future Laboratory

From Wall Street to luxury fashion to the wild world of nightclub ownership and now to Chief Brand Officer of citizenM, Robin Chadha’s career has been a vibrant one. As he and Anant talk everything innovation, tech and a shared, permanent fascination with hospitality, Robin reveals the story of citizenM, the lightbulb moment behind the concept and the brand’s distinctive take on luxury.
Reinventing an Industry
30min
S02, E02
Robin Chadha, Chief Brand Officer of citizenM

In 2007, Mike and Alison Battle founded Lapland UK – an immersive, festive experience for every kind of family. As clients of Matter Of Form, we invited Mike to sit down with Fred to illuminate the complexities of the immersive experience business model, the importance of integrity when working with an open IP and how everything that can be considered luxury starts and ends with craft.
Crafting "Stop The Clock" Moments
41min
S02, E03
Mike Battle, Founder & CEO of Lapland UK

As the digitisation partner for world-leading brands like Pangaia, Mulberry, Coach, Chloé and many more, EON uses proprietary digital ID technology to make every product traceable, intelligent and valuable. Fred sits down with EON’s founder, Natasha Franck, to tap into the tech’s revolutionary potential and how it adds modern luxury value by heightening craft, deepening story and extending lifecycles.
Demystifying Digital IDs
34min
S02, E00
Natasha Franck, Founder & CEO of EON

With over seventeen years of experience in the luxury space, Rosie Shephard is a font of knowledge for brands who wish to be first-movers. In the episode, she sits down with Fred to talk everything from luxury’s ever-evolving landscape and ongoing market shifts to new definitions and their role in the wider world, ultimately calling for industry ‘pearl-clutchers’ to kick away the heritage crutch and instead use the influence and privilege of luxury brands to push culture forward.
The Power of International Perspectives
29min
S02, E05
Rosie Shephard, Founder of The Luxury Communications Council

As a provocateur who stands against the hype, Tom Goodwin doesn’t mince words. It’s a candour he brings to What The Luxe’s latest episode as, alongside Anant, the two journey through topics like the philosophy of superfakes, death of longform, whether AI hype is warranted, loyalty myths and more. All underpinned by the necessity of nuance and context in a noisy, hype-driven world.
Provenance, Context & The Soul of Things
39min
S02, E06
Tom Goodwin, Speaker, Consultant & Author of Digital Darwinism

Our first team host and Head of Marketing Juliet Watkin-Rees sits down with Perla Bloom, Global Strategy Lead at Electronic Arts, to enlighten forward-thinking luxury brands on the gaming opportunity, clarify widespread misconceptions and demystify the space for those who have yet to get to grips with it – underpinned by a call for brands to value players just as much as they value traditional media audiences.
Don't Hate The Player
32min
S02, E07
Perla Bloom, Global Strategy Lead at Electronic Arts

Wrapping up What The Luxe’s second series, Fred is joined by Geordie Mackay-Lewis; a former soldier turned co-founder of bespoke experience group Pelorus, who design and lead transformative travel experiences for those who desire something different. Covering the big subjects like sustainability, diversifying luxury audiences and market gaps, Fred and Geordie also touch on the question of AI, whether it’s a threat or benefit to Pelorus’ premise and why experiences should be designed destination-last, not first.
'Destination-Last Travel'
37min
S02, E08
Geordie Mackay-Lewis, Co-Founder & CEO of Pelorus
Season 3
8 episodes
Now well underway, What The Luxe S3 launched with streetwear icon and founder Jeff Staple, followed by Black Tomato’s co-founder, Tom Marchant and MOF’s very own Strategy Director, James Lees.

All-round streetwear icon, founder of STAPLE and creator of the Pigeon SB Dunk, Jeff Staple, joins the podcast to kick off What The Luxe’s coolest series yet – talking everything from 1980s/90s NYC to self-expression, individuality and why streetwear has become synonymous with the world of luxury. Plus we get the story behind the legendary “NYC Pigeon”, its five-figure value and more.
Hype, Luxury & Street Culture
54min
S03, E01
Jeff Staple, Streetwear Icon & Founder of STAPLE

For nearly two decades, Black Tomato has been lighting the way for curious travellers, providing bespoke experiences designed to inspire, challenge and connect. Sitting down with What The Luxe, co-founder Tom Marchant taps into the brand’s driving forces as well as the need for a symbiotic relationship between traveller and place.
'In The Moment' Travel
38min
S03, E02
Tom Marchant, Co-Founder of Black Tomato

Always armed with a pen and something sharp to say, James was the perfect victim for What The Luxe’s first video episode. He and Anant begin by debunking innovation myths and misconceptions surrounding the U/HNW cohort before moving through the subjects of status, digital assets, healthy friction in the customer experience, the importance of rewarding behaviours, creating ritual and the industry’s tendency to conflate observation with insight – punctuated with subtle innovation anecdotes and valuable case studies.
Masterminding Creative Platforms
35min
S03, E03
James Lees, Strategy Director at Matter Of Form

In 2005, Tim Butcher and Lizzie Deshayes founded Fromental, establishing their reputation with hand-painted, hand-embroidered silk wall coverings. Twenty years later, they've carved out a singular space in the interiors market. Sitting down with What The Luxe, Lizzie and Tim illuminate listeners on the innate fun of creation, the nuances of taste in designing for designers and how crafting beautiful things is a compulsive and human act.
The Compulsive Pursuit of Beauty in Craft
42min
S03, E04
Tim Butcher, Founder of Fromental

From Blackpool to the Maldives, Paul Jones has lived a fascinating career to say the least. Sitting down with What The Luxe, Paul takes us back to the beginning, before weaving the tale of his life in hospitality to date, unveiling secrets of the trade along the way.
A Lifetime in Hospitality
41min
S03, E05
Paul Jones, CEO of The Lux Collective

Wayne Bruce, known as ManBat to some and Bentley’s Chief Comms and D&I Officer to many, has had an illustrious career in automotive – one he unpacks in the latest episode of What The Luxe, along with everything that makes Bentley Motors what it is today, from the strategic trifecta that turned the business around following their biggest loss in 2018 to values of craft, tech, sustainability and their category-defining diversity initiatives.
Making The "Everyday Extraordinary"
36min
S03, E06
Wayne Bruce, Chief Comms and D&I Officer at Bentley Motors

For the last seventeen years, Anthea Peers has experienced everything Christie’s is and stands for, from the drama of the auction to the stories behind the art world’s most famous pieces. Bringing her best anecdotes to life, Anthea and Anant go behind the gavel – talking everything from Christie’s impressive history and how the heritage brand maintains relevance today to the face of the new collector, the part scarcity plays in modern luxury and so much more.
Behind The Gavel
38min
S03, E07
Anthea Peers, President of Christie's EMEA

For over a century, St. Regis Hotels & Resorts has redefined what luxury means to affluent guests time and time again. Sitting down with What The Luxe, Guiseppe De Martino, General Manager of The St. Regis Rome, walks us through what it takes to conduct not just a luxury hotel but a legendary one, and why it’s perhaps one of the most difficult art forms to master.
The Art of Italian Hospitality
32min
S03, E08
Guiseppe De Martino, GM of The St. Regis Rome
Season 4
5 episodes
Series 4 sees What The Luxe sit down with Melodie Leung, Director at the renowned Zaha Hadid Architects, on balancing form and function; David Burke, Chief Executive at London Philharmonic Orchestra, on keeping the arts alive; Harry Jarman, Founder of Gentleman’s Journal on the changing face of influence; Matteo Atti, Global CMO of VistaJet on the future of private aviation; and Franck Arnold, MD & Regional VP of The Savoy London, on luxury, legacy and service innovation.

Kicking off the fourth series of What The Luxe, we welcome one of the Directors at the renowned Zaha Hadid Architects and our esteemed client, Melodie Leung, as she reflects on her remarkable nineteen-year journey with the firm.
Balancing Form & Function
45min
S04, E01
Melodie Leung, Director of Zaha Hadid Architects

In conversation with What The Luxe, David Burke, Chief Executive of the London Philharmonic Orchestra (LPO), delves into the history, mission and evolving role of orchestras in contemporary culture. Shifting perceptions from luxury to legacy, Burke shares how LPO is helping to keep the arts alive by democratising access to live performances and breaking barriers to musical education.
Orchestrating Wonder
41min
S04, E02
David Burke, Chief Exec. of the London Philharmonic Orchestra

From a startup in his spare room to an established and sought-after media brand, Harry Jarman and his team have built something truly exceptional with Gentlemen’s Journal. In the latest episode of What The Luxe, Jarman speaks on subjects like the platform’s evolution, the demand for print and the changing face of influence today.
Read It. See It. Shop It.
45min
S04, E03
Harry Jarman, Founder of Gentleman's Journal

For two decades, VistaJet has flown passengers to over 2,400 airports in 96% of the world's countries, making it the first and only global aviation company. Sitting down with What The Luxe, VistaJet’s Global CMO Matteo Atti pulls back the curtain on one of the world's most fascinating and talked-about industries, speaking to changing notions of luxury, the diversity of the UHNW audience and the future of private aviation.
The Future of Private Aviation
45min
S04, E04
Matteo Atti, Global CMO of VistaJet

With a truly international career in hospitality, Franck Arnold brings his story and expertise to What The Luxe, telling all about London’s original luxury hotel—”the place of firsts”—and its singularities; its long legacy and modern renaissance; and the thousands of guest interactions that make The Savoy so sought-after, even after 130+ years.
Legacy, Luxury and Service Innovation
51min
S04, E05
Franck Arnold, Managing Director & Regional VP at The Savoy